The Flame’s Pastors

mattaMatta Ghaly (they/them) is a queer spiritual devotee of Egyptian descent, residing on Stl’pulmsh lands, near Chinook territory. After studying process-oriented psychology, Matta completed a Master of Divinity at Luther Seminary and a Master of Arts in Liberation Theology at the Graduate Theological Union. They currently minister to a multi-religious community, drawing on the wisdom of their Lutheran and Sufi traditions. In their practice, teaching and accompaniment, Matta aspires to be intimate with the heart, attuned to the body’s wisdom, and grounded in cultural humility. Matta enjoys being out in nature, pilgriming to sacred places and deepening connections in loving community.


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Leo Bancroft (he/him/his) is a pastor with the Oregon Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA). He has a Master of Arts in Systematic Theology from the Jesuit School of Theology in Berkeley, California.

Leo is a bisexual trans man who has spent most of his life in the Portland Metro area. In addition to The Flame, he also works in tech support and is a natural born goofball. He loves to play on the trapeze and practice handstands.

His favorite bible passage is Romans 8:38-39, because he appreciates the reminder that nothing he does will make God stop loving him. “For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”